MLDM 2019… still not in New York! …and not published by Springer!

A few years ago, I decided to give a try at the MLDM 2016 conference, which I had never attended. It was not a bad conference, although quite small and the registration is quite expensive for a conference (about 650 euros). I submitted a paper to MLDM because at that time, it was still published by Springer (update: in 2019, it was not published by Springer anymore) and the timing was good.

The conference itself was not bad, but as several other attendees, I have been disappointed by the MLDM conference location, which was supposed to be New York, but was instead in Newark, New Jersey!

Why is this a problem? The problem is that Newark is about 45 minutes by train from New York. Moreover, the location of the MLDM conference was one of the worst among all conferences that I have attended. The Ramada Hotel was located in the middle of highways, and there was basically nowhere to walk around. To go to New York we had to take a shuttle back to the Newark airport to then take a 40 minute train to New York.

Because of the misleading information about the conference being held in New York on the MLDM website, some attendees even booked airplanes to the JFK airport or Laguardia airport, which are in New York, and had to travel about 1 hour by train to get out of New York to arrive in Newark for the MLDM conference. Some of those persons were quite frustrated by the location.

The real location of MLDM 2019 is in Newark

A few years later, one could expect that things have changed. I did not submit papers but I decided to check. On the 28th February, I had a look at the webpage of MLDM 2019.

The deadline for submitting papers had passed. But the conference is again advertised as being in New York City. There are even some picture of New York on the website.

On March 14th 2019, I checked again. I clicked on the location section of the MLDM conference website, and it still advertised as being held in New York city (see below). And the exact conference location is *** not available ***.

On April 19 2019, I checked again. The deadline for submitting papers has passed since a long time now. The website has been updated, and if we look carefully, it is said that the MLDM conference will be held in Newark, New Jersey rather than New York. Thus again, the conference will not be in New York! It will be held in the same Ramada Hotel as in 2016, in Newark.

It is important to note that it is written only at one place on the website that the MLDM conference will be in Newark, while “New York City” is written everywhere else on the website, and there are many pictures of New York. Thus if someone does not read carefully, it is very easy to be mislead and think that the conference is in New York. Besides, since it is announced to be in Newark after the deadline for submitting papers, authors are already somewhat committed to attending the conference, and they expect it to still be in New York.

It should be announced **before the deadline* that the conference is in Newark.

This pattern of announcing that the conference is in New York before moving it to Newark seems to be repeating itself every year since 2016. I could not find the website of MLDM 2017 and MLDM 2018 because it is offline, but the proceedings of MLDM 2017 and MLDM 2018 claim that it was in New York. However, it was probably also in Newark, just like MLDM 2016.

Conclusion

Although I do not submit papers to MLDM since 2016, I have written this blog post because I think that it should be clearly announced that the MLDM conference is in Newark rather than New York. This will avoid disappointment of attendees who have submitted a paper and expected the conference to be held in New York.

Update 2020-1: Another misleading information about MLDM 2019 was that it was supposed to be published by Springer in the LNAI series (this is written for example on the CFP posed on WikiCFP). But at the conference, some authors found that the proceedings were **not** published by Springer but by a small publisher called Ibai (see some author commenting about this in the comment section below). In case that it gets removed, here is screenshot of the call for papers:

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MLDM 2019… still not in New York! …and not published by Springer! — 2 Comments

  1. To make the matters worst, in MLDM 2019, they announced that papers will be published in Springer. But at the end, it has been published, supposedly, in their own unknwon ” ibai publishing ” which not indexed by Google and not seen anywhere. In essence, you pay 650 Euros for going to a conference in the middle of nowhere and get published nowhere.

    Isn’t there anything we can do about this ? I feel I have been misused.

    • Hi, I feel bad to read this… If it happened to me, I would be quite angry, because I think that the main selling point of this conference in the past has been that it was published by Springer. Even if this conference is expensive, being published by Springer would at least ensure that the paper would be indexed. I dont know why it is not published by Springer anymore. I know that Springer will typically re-evaluate their collaboration with conferences every year. Maybe they have decided to not publish it anymore? Or maybe the organizers have decided that they would save money by not publishing proceedings with Springer, as they would have to pay a few thousands of euros to Springer.
      We don’t know for sure what happened. But yes, Ibai publishing is not a place where I would want my papers to be published.

      Now, I would like to see if MDLM has promised that proceedings would be published by Springer. On the website of MLDM it seems to not be clearly stated. It is only stated that paper must be formated in LNCS format. But on some other websites like WikiCFP, it is promised that it would be “indexed by Springer” (http://www.guide2research.com/conference/mldm-2019 ). I wonder: do you have any screenshots or proof that it would be published by Springer? If you had, it would be great.

      Now what can you do? I think it is perhaps too late to do anything about it. If you want, you could always ask to retract your paper and submit it somewhere else. But maybe that it is not worth it.

      In any case, I think that a good idea would be for you to write a post on this blog about the MLDM 2020 conference, where you could tell about your story and how you have been disapointed by what happened and perhaps even show a picture of the MLDM 2019 IBAI proceedings. At least, this would let other people know about what happened. If you are interested to write your story on this blog, please send me an email at philfv8 AT yahoo DOT com and we can discuss that. This blog has quite a lot of visitor and it would give visibility to your story.

      Best regards,

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